About Brutal Doom and the hate

brutaldoomI actually never ever wanted to write an article about Brutal Doom here on the Realm667 and though I feel like having to make things clear now after people have asking me a million times "why I dislike about the project". Next to that I had a short discussion with SGtMarkIV himself on Youtube a few days ago and that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

First of all it's not that I hate the mod at all. In fact there is a lot of effort put into and regarding the way Doom 4 ended up, I think it had a huge impact to the gaming community far beyond the borders. It brought a lot of attention to this damn old game that we love. It's not my personal taste of a mod, yes, but still I honor the project as a whole.

What really makes me boycott the mod is the author's attitude towards other people's work and behaviour when it comes to criticism (I mean, you have to be seriously anti-social to get banned on almost every community messageboard here) - and to be honest, it makes me totally sick. For the latest example of impudence, simply take a look at the trailer for Brutal Doom v19 - watch it to the end and as someone from the modding scene you will notice a lot of prominent releases being showcased in the trailer, for instance Scythe 2, Recurring Nightmares and Knee-Deep in ZDoom to name a few. But where was the credits? Seargent Mark IV most propably forgot them, so I pointed him towards these in the comments of the video. After a discussion of 4-5 comments (you can only see mine as he deleted his own ones already, where he was insulting me and justifying without even considering that placing credits would be a question of modesty) he obviously added the credits, so I guess my suggestion wasn't all that bad.

"Dude, why are you so crazy? Maybe he simply forgot to post add the credits to the video? What's the problem anyway? Other maps get attention as well!"

Yes, maybe he forgot to add the credits to the description of the video (it seems to be an inveterate pattern of behaviour in his case, but hey, let's look over that), and yes, why do I care? People from the Doom community recognise what map is being showcased with Brutal Doom's trailer... people from the Doom community... it suddenly might dawn to you. Maybe I am leaning out of the window, but SGtMarkIV doesn't seem to me stupid despite many of his public statements. So taking that for granted, I am pretty sure that adding credits for maps being showcased in his trailer isn't an impossible task to do, nor in terms of technique, neither in terms of care. Therefore someone like me could come to the conclusion, that SGtMarkIV simply doesn't care about other people's work, the principal thing is just to make his mod shine - and it definitely shines better on Scythe then it does on the original Doom. People outside the community could even consider that he is an amazing mapper - but that's another story.

Point is that this will be definitely the last news item about Brutal Doom here on the Realm667 forever and all eternity for the reasons said. I do support good new ideas, exciting mods and diligent efforts but I do not support people like Seargent Mark IV behind them, who base their personal stolen glory on the backs of other people's hard work. And if you have a spark of decency, I'd really suggest you do the same.

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BadMojo replied the topic: #2 3 years 4 months ago
Out of curiosity...

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But just out of curiosity, has any of the original authors of the resources hes using and not crediting for come forth and ask him to either credit or remove those resources?...

Im only wondering, I realize this is a touchy subject, I just want to know how far people have gone to get their un-credited work removed from brutal doom.... From what Ive read so far I have only ever seen people questioning why permissions havent been asked for and why credits havent been added.. then all of the harassment and such that follows from both him and the community.... but I havent seen any people saying "remove so and so" or "can you credit my work please".. (and by all means point me to a thread where such a thing has happened)

Again, this is only a curiosity thing, Im not askin for a shitstorm to start, or an ambush of opinions.. just want to know what Ive missed :)
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CaptainManiac replied the topic: #3 3 years 4 months ago
I like brutality and gore and to tell the enemies what they are straight from the horse's mouth.I like this mod to be honest,but i think gory mods like that make me think about killing.I need to stop watching brutal and horror movies and to play games like that anymore
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M.A.G. 1993 replied the topic: #4 10 months 3 weeks ago
I used to play Brutal DOOM back in 2013. I will say this: it is an impressive mod (I still prefer the run-n-gun game play of vanilla DOOM but that's just me) and it help fuel my love for the games when I got into them the year before. But besides the fact that I stopped playing because I prefer the charm and simplicity of vanilla DOOM, the big reason why I stopped is because Sgt_Mark_IV is a just major asshole.

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