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[UPDATE] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023

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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 1 week ago #1 by Amiga Angel
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Name: elven sorceress

Difficulty: easy

Connection: N/A

Summon: elvensorceress

Melee: yes

Distance: fireball

Type: elven sorceress

Game: doom, heretic, hexen, strife

Credits:

Submitted: Amiga Angel

Decorate: N/A

ZScript: Amiga Angel with help from Linus, JediMB and Boondorl

Sprites: doom 2 by id software + ripped from might and magic 7 by cyrus annihilator

Sprite Adaption: Amiga Angel

Sounds: ripped from eldar scrolls 3 high elf female

Idea Base: Amiga Angel

GLDEFs: N/A

Editor Number: 7777

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This elven sorceress will kill you on sight unless she is neutral.
Last edit: 1 year 1 week ago by Amiga Angel.

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1 year 2 months ago #2 by Gothic
Replied by Gothic on topic [SUBMISSION] npc elf peasant girl
I don't think this could have much use, if it is intended as an NPC, then at least it should fit one of the 4 main games (Doom, Heretic/Hexen, Strife)

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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #3 by Amiga Angel
Replied by Amiga Angel on topic [SUBMISSION] npc elf peasant girl
I would guess that heretic/hexen would be the best fit for her.
She would work well as a heretic/hexen shopkeeper.

edit:
I will try to see if I can make an update of her where she has some sort of attack.
Last edit: 1 year 2 months ago by Amiga Angel.

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1 year 1 month ago #4 by Gothic
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That's a very powerful railgun attack for such an "easy" enemy, and she fires it three times in a row, either reduce the damage and change the sound to something more magical, or give her a different more fitting attack.
Her proportions in game look weird, instead of giving her different x & y scale, give her equal scaling.
She also lacks a pain sound.

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1 year 1 week ago - 1 year 1 week ago #5 by Amiga Angel
Replied by Amiga Angel on topic [UPDATE] elven sorceress
elven sorceress updated

new attack
new stats
new sounds
new scale
new projectile created from a baronball

extra states
extra sounds

she can be a regular enemy,
she can be an npc thats neutral until attacked
and she can be a magic shop salesperson...

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1 year 3 days ago - 1 year 3 days ago #6 by Gothic
Ok, time to be brutally honest.
Even with proper balancing, I don't think this would get approved. The main problem here is the sprites, I find them very unappealing.
Sorry, but I'll pass this one.
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1 year 1 day ago - 1 year 1 day ago #7 by CaptainToenail
Replied by CaptainToenail on topic [UPDATE] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023
I have experimented with these Might and Magic sprites in the past - it is possible to get them to fit in with the Hexen art style to a degree, but it's not perfect. The end result is quite rough but they don't look as out-of-place in-game.

First you have to resize the entire spritesheet to match the dimensions of the Hexen sprites (they appear a bit squat but they look normal in-game) - this step takes a bit of trial-and-error. You also have to reduce the brightness of the sprites to match (around -50%), increase the contrast slightly (10?), and it also helps to manually tweak the colours to match the Hexen palette - index them to the Hexen palette if you can without degrading them. You can also delete every second animation frame as the M&M stuff has double the framerate for the animation and apply antialiasing to smooth them out. It's quite a bit of work though and some of the creatures are too thin and spindly to survive the resize.

Here's an example of the Druidess, a Crystal Ice Demon and a Wyvern modified to fit Hexen style with this approach.

It may be worth a try adopting a similar approach for this Sorceress.
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1 year 1 day ago #8 by Amiga Angel
ok fair enough

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I may take captain toenails advice about might and magic enemies and try again with this sprite but for hexen and going through the process he mentions and I could try recoloring it... would that be something worth doing or do you think I should try a completely different sprite for my next attempt?

I have another enemy based on a sprite from shadow of the beast, floating eyes, a version with a melee attack and one with a ranged attack... they are fairly simple lost souls variants though ...but I guess I could post them as well at some point ... also working on a tower type enemy using modified sprites from shadow of the beast

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11 months 2 weeks ago - 11 months 2 weeks ago #9 by CaptainToenail
Replied by CaptainToenail on topic [UPDATE] elven sorceress - updated 22nd of June 2023
I had a go at trying to match the Might & Magic sprites to Heretic's Corvus. I have no idea how this looks or animates in game. She might be a little distorted.
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11 months 2 weeks ago #10 by Amiga Angel
thanks I kinda like it.
I will give the sprites a go at some point.

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